The Importance of Being Earnest
I'm not going to argue whether it is a feature or not. That whole bit was quite ancillary to my point. I simply wanted to convey the idea that the situation is not as grave as you purport it to be. Harming Fedora's name? Good heavens, you think we're trying to do that? Everything is out there for feedback. Because we like internets.
It seems apparent as an outsider looking in that there's an apparent goal to have new icons for FC6. A noble goal, I'd add. You wanted it in by a certain date. It was missed. That sucks. But getting the first batch in wasn't missed by much. Would getting things in a week or so sooner have assuaged your complaints anyway? Magic 8-ball says not likely.
You also say this isn't being tested. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the whole reason of putting the artwork into Rawhide *is* to get testing. As soon as possible after things get done, they get added to the wiki page or to their respective packages.
The hope is that we get the icons done for FC6. And it is entirely possible, especially with the great contributions that the project has been receiving. We want to do things right. We think we are doing things right. (Apologies to the Fedora Art team for using the collective "we.")
Again, things are not as bleak as you assume they are. People want this to work. We aren't going to ship things exactly the way things are now. That would be silly and I'm not sure what gave you that idea. People are working hard on getting things done for FC6. Scrapping the entire project for FC6 because of a few issues with stars, plusses, and colors on a few icons out of ... hundreds? ... seems rather drastic. File bugs on issues you find, so they can get addressed. There may not be much time, but there is still time for improving things.
Also, for future reference, it's consiglieri.
Are you really sure that a floor can't also be a ceiling?
David, it's not technically a feature. It's data. The feature is being able to display the data in a meaningful manner. Support for new image formats would be a feature. Support for displaying images where they previously were unable to be displayed would also be classified as a new feature. Simply displaying different documents, however, isn't.
Is adding a new language translation a feature? It's new, right? The support for using translations was already there, it's just new data to display is all. Would changing the release notes format be a new feature? No, we already have document viewers that can display these things. I can only imagine the sheer amount of firefox bug reports I would get every time someone created a new web site: "RFE: Please add support for viewing xyz.com." What if the GIMP developers had to deal with feature requests: "RFE: foo.jpg works but only with certain contrast settings."
Yes, there is a lot of new art coming through the pipeline. It is also clear you don't like it. Perhaps if you did, your opinion of the so-called "feature" would be more favorable. However, art is perhaps one of the most subjective areas known to man. While some think Monet and Picasso were genius, others (myself included) can not stand the works. Some people complained about the art in FC5; others loved it. Now when trying to change things for FC6, yet more complaints. But there is hope. Help create (or find people you know to help create) art for the project. Help test and report these issues. Don't make it seem as if the new artwork is being done in an attempt to sabotage the release, though. The Fedora Artwork project is important because it is another way for people who might not be able to contribute otherwise (due to lack of desire/ability to code, for example) an avenue for contributing. We should be promoting it, not attempting to stifle it.
/me goes to get some much needed sleep now....
Title quote: M.C. Escher.
You've Got Red On You
There are some things which would be cool to see happen in real life. For example, I would love to see a kung fu fight break out in the middle of a city square. Sometimes, I'm just plain happy to have a camera with me.
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